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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:04 pm 
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Hi, I have a 62 reg 998cc C1. It's done 152,000 miles. I'm rigorous with servicing and I've had it since 28k and have serviced it every 10,000-15,000 miles since, so it's well looked after.

At its service in March the oil was almost empty. It's not due another service for another 6,000m but I checked it again today and it's half empty. No leaks.

Any ideas?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:44 pm 
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One of the weekly checks is the oil level. Mine has done over 90.000 it to uses oil l take as part of these engines no more, no less. Just like the tapping sound on start up that goes away.

Might help if you could the mileage against the oil used in a week for example or if there is clouds of smoke coming from the exhaust


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:35 pm 
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Thanks for your reply. I've never had oil loss before that I have noticed, but I suspect in reality it may always have lost some, but I had not noticed it before, because until recently I have never checked the oil before changing it. There's no smoke from the exhaust, so that seems fine. I've also never checked the oil between services so I think I probably just need to check it at least monthly.

I went into this thinking something was wrong, but after looking elsewhere online and taking into account your experience, I'm now thinking it's a combination of long haul and normal behaviour.

Cheers again for the response.

Dean


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:38 am 
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its a lot miles , the only thing you could do is to change the engine for a younger engine with less miles on it.
i have done it olso for my daugther in law
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1311&hilit=engine+swap&start=150


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:23 am 
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A very quick calulation from your mileage it looks looks like you are doing something like
800 miles a month. If that’s the case I would recommend you check your oil much more frequently.
5 litres of quality oil cost next to nothing. I have a litre in my car always and a roll of kitchen paper.
I transferred the oil from the big container to 1 litre one.


DO NOT OVER FILL IT


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:38 pm 
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When you say half empty, you mean on the max min marks on the dipstick?

If so then you have only burned a half litre.


You could have the engine overhauled for less than you can get a new engine fitted.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:55 pm 
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Hi again, this issue bugged me too, and I've posted separately to see if anyone had the real answer.. no definitive came up so I guess no-one really knows yet. Like brixtonboy I've come to take it as a characteristic of the engine when it gets past the 100k miles mark, nothing majorly wrong but probably just normal wear on the valve guides, oil control rings etc adding up to generally increased oil consumption.

One thing I did get out of my previous look into this was a suggestion to use synthetic 5W-30 oil rather than the semi-synth 10W-40 I'd previously had recommended. This appears to have reduced oil consumption quite noticeably and I now seem to be achieving about 5k miles per litre which is much better than before. Now I have no idea why this would work?? The only thing I can think of is that fully synth oil is apparently less volatile and won't vapourise away so quickly but you tell me, I guessing there! It occurs to me therefore that when the OP had his car serviced they put something like 10W-40 in instead of the 5W-30 that's now recommended - hence the surprise when the consumption went up.

But do note, I'm doing 5k miles per litre, so you really, really must keep that dipstick checked between services on a higher mileage car!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:53 pm 
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wee mac wrote:
When you say half empty, you mean on the max min marks on the dipstick?

If so then you have only burned a half litre.


You could have the engine overhauled for less than you can get a new engine fitted.


Yes, half way between min and max. I didn't realise that was only half a litre. Not as bad as I thought then.

Thanks


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:25 pm 
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alans447 wrote:
Hi again, this issue bugged me too, and I've posted separately to see if anyone had the real answer.. no definitive came up so I guess no-one really knows yet. Like brixtonboy I've come to take it as a characteristic of the engine when it gets past the 100k miles mark, nothing majorly wrong but probably just normal wear on the valve guides, oil control rings etc adding up to generally increased oil consumption.

One thing I did get out of my previous look into this was a suggestion to use synthetic 5W-30 oil rather than the semi-synth 10W-40 I'd previously had recommended. This appears to have reduced oil consumption quite noticeably and I now seem to be achieving about 5k miles per litre which is much better than before. Now I have no idea why this would work?? The only thing I can think of is that fully synth oil is apparently less volatile and won't vapourise away so quickly but you tell me, I guessing there! It occurs to me therefore that when the OP had his car serviced they put something like 10W-40 in instead of the 5W-30 that's now recommended - hence the surprise when the consumption went up.

But do note, I'm doing 5k miles per litre, so you really, really must keep that dipstick checked between services on a higher mileage car!


5w30 C3 is the recommended oil, has been for 10 years, its the only oil the club recommends and the only oil the specialist stores sell for these cars. 10w40 semi is not suited to these engines.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:06 pm 
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alans447 wrote:
Hi again, this issue bugged me too, and I've posted separately to see if anyone had the real answer.. no definitive came up so I guess no-one really knows yet. Like brixtonboy I've come to take it as a characteristic of the engine when it gets past the 100k miles mark, nothing majorly wrong but probably just normal wear on the valve guides, oil control rings etc adding up to generally increased oil consumption.

One thing I did get out of my previous look into this was a suggestion to use synthetic 5W-30 oil rather than the semi-synth 10W-40 I'd previously had recommended. This appears to have reduced oil consumption quite noticeably and I now seem to be achieving about 5k miles per litre which is much better than before. Now I have no idea why this would work?? The only thing I can think of is that fully synth oil is apparently less volatile and won't vapourise away so quickly but you tell me, I guessing there! It occurs to me therefore that when the OP had his car serviced they put something like 10W-40 in instead of the 5W-30 that's now recommended - hence the surprise when the consumption went up.

But do note, I'm doing 5k miles per litre, so you really, really must keep that dipstick checked between services on a higher mileage car!


5w30 C3 is the recommended oil, has been for 10 years, its the only oil the club recommends and the only oil the specialist stores sell for these cars. 10w40 semi is not suited to these engines.


The odd thing is the service guide for my 2007 C1 is as follows "For C1 petrol, it is recommended to use the oil TOTAL ACTIVA/QUARTZ 5000 15W40, norm API SL"
The alternative options are 10w40 or 5w40

The local Citroen/Peugeot specialist use 5w30. But local Toyota dealer uses 0w20.

My C1 burns through less oil using 5w40 than when using 5w30 so will stick with that for now.


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