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 Post subject: Oil change
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 6:04 pm 
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Hi turn ignition on everything as normal, start up all lights out then oil light comes on briefly and goes out. I concentrate on it. There is no flickering, l guess that would mean the oil level is low or similar?

Oil used. Shell Ultra Helix 5w-30
Oil Filter. Bosch P2028 or 098645028
As suitable for Peugeot/ Aygo aswell
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 Post subject: Re: Oil change
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 7:54 pm 
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brixtonboy wrote:
Hi turn ignition on everything as normal, start up all lights out then oil light comes on briefly and goes out. I concentrate on it. There is no flickering, l guess that would mean the oil level is low or similar?

Oil used. Shell Ultra Helix 5w-30
Oil Filter. Bosch P2028 or 098645028
As suitable for Peugeot/ Aygo aswell
Thanks guys.



Gregory Isaacs r.i.p.

It is the correct filter so should work ok.
What oil level do you have on dip stick and is the auto on level ground?

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 Post subject: Re: Oil change
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 9:23 pm 
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Just been shopping light did it on startup, drove about 2 miles typical short stuff, 10 minutes shopping.
Popped the hood oil level smack in between points double checked also. Engine is running smooth as silk, that's with almost 90,000 miles. Started it up oil was warm, oil light stayed out. The new Mann filter might be here tomorrow if DHL get there finger out :)


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 Post subject: Re: Oil change
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:56 am 
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It is conceivable that it is a defective filter and replacing the filter should not harm but I've never had a bad filter. A compromised drain back might give a short flask of warning light but more likely a long delay before the warning dissappears.

http://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Filters- ... FFR-PH4967

Two miles won't have warmed the oil much unless you have a defective bearing.

Did you follow the Haynes procedure to the letter when you replaced the oil and filter?

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 Post subject: Oil change
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 10:57 am 
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I too have never have faulty filter, but l have never before used a Bosch filter it came as a pack with the oil and it is a recommended brand. Now regarding following the Haynes procedure to the letter, l have always done the changes the same way on all my cars with or without a manual right or wrong. This car has had 8 changes by me, this is the first time anything like this has happened and it, the only time a Bosch filter has been used. But as we all know there is a first time for everything. This morning the light did it again but later ( hour ) it was ok.


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 Post subject: Re: Oil change
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:48 pm 
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Well after all 25 posts l've been not telling the truth, it's not the oil can light it's the STOP light that blinks once. What a plonker after reading the German book l guess it all comes down to the same thing in end though, don't it ?????


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 Post subject: Re: Oil change
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:02 pm 
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Well after all 25 posts l've been not telling the truth, it's not the oil can light it's the STOP light that blinks once. What a plonker after reading the German book l guess it all comes down to the same thing in end though, don't it ?????


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So please confirm

All the lights come on initially some go off
But the little oil can light remains on until you start the engine then...
'STOP' light flashes on and off once a few seconds after the engine starts.
The little oil can light goes off before this and stays off.

Note you are correct the stop light is either too hot coolant temperature or too low oil pressure, but it is set by the ECU indirectly and 'could be' of a transient to quick for the oil can light to show.

If you wanted to be helpful can you try a cold start in dark with vehicle lights off, to see if the oil can flashes faintly just prior to the STOP.

It still could be the filter anti syphon weeping or air trapped.

If you start let the engine run for five seconds stop and then immediately start again do you get a STOP flash on the second start sequence.

If you don't get a flash second time very probably the filter.

Note I don't use Halfords sequence either.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil change
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:44 pm 
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Before l answer Mr. Xmas's can somebody tell me if it's normal for the stop light to flash with the ignition on, but before the engine is turned over.
I have just got so confused this week don't know if l am coming or going.


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 Post subject: Re: Oil change
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 3:22 am 
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Tried mine and the stop light stays on for a long time after the engine starts and the oil can goes off.
But it does not come back on for a second time.
I'll try your suggested condition later I don't do that sequence.
Think the battery is running the heaters in the lambdas.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil change
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 7:02 am 
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brixtonboy wrote:
Before l answer Mr. Xmas's can somebody tell me if it's normal for the stop light to flash with the ignition on, but before the engine is turned over.
I have just got so confused this week don't know if l am coming or going.


Gregory Isaacs r.i.p.

The more direct answer to your question is it the STOP light behaviour could be dependent on the version of the software in the engine control computer.
And my auto has a different CO2 emission level from yours and that will be different injector parameters as well as other things.
But don't leave ignition on instead sweep from off to running starter easier on battery.
I'm still eating breakfast.

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