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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:01 am 
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So, in the first example, he got the Yaris from the same dealer that bought his car, right? In the second example, he got it from some other place, right?

-I traded it in for a Yaris.
-I sold it and bought a Yaris.

Are those both natural?

Both natural, but the second one doesn't necessarily mean he bought the Yaris from a different place.

Traded implies the same place, but "sold and bought" doesn't necessarily mean a different place.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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A Canadian told a story from his childhood in which his mum got angry that he had stolen a can of soda pop. Being angry, she "dumped all of it down the sink". Now is that use of 'dump' natural as for liquid? Shouldn't I say "she poured all of it down the sink"?


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kaliope wrote:
A Canadian told a story from his childhood in which his mum got angry that he had stolen a can of soda pop. Being angry, she "dumped all of it down the sink". Now is that use of 'dump' natural as for liquid? Shouldn't I say "she poured all of it down the sink"?

Poured is more normal, but the use of dumped suggests some anger and frustration so in this context it's understandable.

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Agreed.

"chucked it down the sink" would also work for me in that context.


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And are these two natural?

"I poured that sour soup into the toilet"
"I poured that sour soup down the toilet."


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kaliope wrote:
And are these two natural?

"I poured that sour soup into the toilet"
"I poured that sour soup down the toilet."

I would only use the second one, pouring something into the toilet sounds strange to me.

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And could I say "I flushed that sour soup down the toilet"?


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kaliope wrote:
And could I say "I flushed that sour soup down the toilet"?

Definitely!

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PetrolDave wrote:
kaliope wrote:
And are these two natural?

"I poured that sour soup into the toilet"
"I poured that sour soup down the toilet."

I would only use the second one, pouring something into the toilet sounds strange to me.


Agreed. Putting it "into" the toilet sounds more like it is going to stay there. So, you might put one of those blue-water toilet fresheners "into" the toilet because it is going to stay there and not be flushed away.


I'm intrigued by the sour soup though. How are we using the word "sour" here? Does it literally mean that the soup has a sour taste (i.e. it has not gone off, but no one likes the taste), or are we using it to say that the soup has gone off (past its best, unfit for consumption)? If it's the latter, that might be less commonly used. Milk goes sour (off) but (I guess, depending on the type of soup) I'd be less inclined to describe soup as sour when it has gone off.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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Enjay wrote:
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I'm intrigued by the sour soup though. How are we using the word "sour" here? Does it literally mean that the soup has a sour taste (i.e. it has not gone off, but no one likes the taste), or are we using it to say that the soup has gone off (past its best, unfit for consumption)? If it's the latter, that might be less commonly used. Milk goes sour (off) but (I guess, depending on the type of soup) I'd be less inclined to describe soup as sour when it has gone off.


Yeah, I meant the soup has gone off. But how do I make it an adjective? Can I say:

"I poured that gone-off soup down the toilet"


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