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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:16 am 
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Enjay wrote:
Intended to make people feel bad about the car they are looking at and tempt them to go for something pricier?

Exactly 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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Coming back to the sitting and standing thing,

-Cars sit at a red light.
-Pedestrians stand at a red light.

Correct?


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kaliope wrote:
Coming back to the sitting and standing thing,

-Cars sit at a red light.
-Pedestrians stand at a red light.

Correct?

Correct.

Think about the shape - pedestrians are vertical (in the majority), cars are horizontal.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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Just to confuse things, I could end up with my car sitting in standing traffic (i.e. stationary traffic). :lol:

Trains tend to "stand" in the station (but "sit" would still neither be ambiguous nor sound particularly odd).

Same with planes sitting or standing on the runway waiting to take off.

However, if you were to do something as a point of principle, you might be taking a stand, but you would not be taking a sit. However, you could take a stand by holding a sit-in.

And don't get me started about standing for Prime Minister by running for office.


And yet my sister still tells me that Polish is harder to learn than English. :?


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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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Yeah, Polish is one of the hardest languages.

Anyway, while offering things like a Snickers, Mars, KitKat, would these two work? Which is more natural? And can I say "Do you want?" to a close friend rather than "Would you like?"

-Do you want a candy bar?
-Do you want a bar of chocolate?


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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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kaliope wrote:
Yeah, Polish is one of the hardest languages.

Anyway, while offering things like a Snickers, Mars, KitKat, would these two work? Which is more natural? And can I say "Do you want?" to a close friend rather than "Would you like?"

-Do you want a candy bar?
-Do you want a bar of chocolate?

"candy bar" IS totally American, British people would only say "bar of chocolate".

"Do you want" is more impersonal, so I would say "would you like" to a close friend or even a colleague.

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As ever, I agree. "Candy bar" in particular is incredibly American and I would be very surprised to hear someone from the UK saying it or generally referring to any kind of confectionery as "candy". Mind you with the creep of American culture, it will probably happen. "Candy Crush" may be the thin end of the wedge of that one.


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I am a bit lost. In Polish we have two different names for a regular bar of chocolate and for something like a Snickers. So, I thought on the left in the pic we see two bars of chocolate and on the right we see something different that Americans call 'a candy bar'. So in BE, both pictures show "a bar of chocolate"?

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Pretty much, but, to be fair, a Snickers bar is quite different to just a slab of chocolate so I would normally ask for/offer a Snickers bar by name if that's what was under discussion.

If I was just offering a "bar of chocolate" and Snickers was an option, I might be holding out a packet/tin/whatever with a few different types (including Snickers) and asking the other person to choose one.

Either way, I would not use "candy bar".

If I got into a time machine and travelled to pre-1990, I would not offer a Snickers bar in the UK, I would offer a Marathon bar instead (because that's what they used to be called here).


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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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kaliope wrote:
So in BE, both pictures show "a bar of chocolate"?

Yes, 100%.

As we've both said "candy bar" is of AmE origin and would never be used in BE. Any non-American using "candy bar" would be unwittingly speaking AmE.

In BE any piece of confectionary that is chocolate coated or mostly chocolate is simply "chocolate" - so a Mars bar is "a bar of chocolate" and a Cadburys Dairy Milk is also "a bar of chocolate".

BE has a great habit of using the same word or phrase for what are at first glance quite different things - it's one of the things that you just get used to 8-)

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