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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:54 pm 
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Is this sentence ambiguous out of context?

"We will see when he does it."

Yes, we don't know what "it" is and we don't know whether "see" or "when" is the most important thing.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 pm 
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So do these two scenarios show the difference between "We'll see when he does it"? DO they sound natural?

Scenario 1
A: Are you going to invite Tom?
B: First he needs to apologise.
A: And if he does, will you invite him?
B: I don’t know. We’ll see when he does it.




Scenario 2
A: I guess Tom is going to fix your car tomorrow.
B: And what makes you think so?
A: He said so.
B: Honestly, he never keeps his word.
A: Oh come on. You should try to trust people more.
B: Ok, we’ll see when he does it. I hope my car is fixed tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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kaliope wrote:
So do these two scenarios show the difference between "We'll see when he does it"? DO they sound natural?

Not for me, they're both waiting to "see" whether a hoped for action actually happens.

Both sound OK to me.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:29 pm 
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What is the person in the pic doing? An AE speaker told me "They are throwing away the table scraps", as 'leftovers don't work in this context." And a BE told me he would never use 'table scraps'. The AE speaker told me 'table scraps' sound like something unsuitable for eating, maybe it's even disgusting. It's whatever is left on your plate after the meal. So I imagine there could be bones if you aren't vegetarian, or other things inedible but also bits of bread or whatever wasn't eaten or something spit out even.

'Leftovers' is food that can be stored and eaten later, probably cause the cook made too much food.



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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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kaliope wrote:
What is the person in the pic doing? An AE speaker told me "They are throwing away the table scraps", as 'leftovers don't work in this context." And a BE told me he would never use 'table scraps'. The AE speaker told me 'table scraps' sound like something unsuitable for eating, maybe it's even disgusting. It's whatever is left on your plate after the meal. So I imagine there could be bones if you aren't vegetarian, or other things inedible but also bits of bread or whatever wasn't eaten or something spit out even.

'Leftovers' is food that can be stored and eaten later, probably cause the cook made too much food.

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I agree with the BE speaker that we never use the phrase 'table scraps', in my family we always use 'leftovers' for the food left on people's plates which gets thrown away.

I believe the different usage of 'leftovers' comes from the different food culture in the UK and US - in the US all portions in restaurants and takeaways are so large that you're not expected to eat it all and to want a box to take it home the 'leftovers' to be re-heated and eaten later, this oversized portion problem happens at home too; however in the UK maybe as a hangover from the post World War 2 food rationing the culture is that meals should be of the size that can be eaten completely in normal circumstances and any small amount left is the 'leftovers' to be discarded.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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A guy was in a public facilty in the US, and there was a bowl with candies/sweets. He asked if he could take one, saying "Is this candy for the public?"

What would ask in that context?


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kaliope wrote:
A guy was in a public facilty in the US, and there was a bowl with candies/sweets. He asked if he could take one, saying "Is this candy for the public?"

What would ask in that context?

As a BE speaker I would probably say something like "Can I have one of those sweets?"

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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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Say someone has visited me and while they're leaving, I say one of these. Does either imply anything? I mean the length of visit? Whether the visit was planned or not? Did the owner of the house knew someone was coming or not?

Thanks for stopping by.
Thanks for dropping by.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you say
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kaliope wrote:
Say someone has visited and while they're leaving, I say one of these. Does either imply anything? I mean the length of visit? Whether the visit was planned or not? Did the owner of the house knew someone was coming or not?

Thanks for stopping by.
Thanks for dropping by.

Both to me imply a brief visit (like on the way home from shopping or work) but I think that's all.

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Do I leave the pleases in this converstaion or omit them?

A: Could I ask you a favor, please?
B: Sure. What is it?
A: Could you post this letter, please?


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