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 Post subject: Re: cheap tyres
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:09 pm 
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Sounds like you were ripped off to me...

I think it's safe to say they saw me coming!

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 Post subject: Re: cheap tyres
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:42 am 
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I found Sailun for 29.31 free delivery.
The Jinyu H rated however is 62. 95.
Given l am no expert on tyres but l believe H is 205 MPH there’s no point mixing them with the T rated tyres at the front. Their Invoice does not reflect the difference between the value of the tyres.
Are you sure they fitted H rated on the rear?

In the back of my mind l wonder what would have had happened if you had asked the mobile tyre fitter to check out all of your tyres while he was there, repairing your valve.
Would he have said, yes mate they all need changing. I’LL give you a quote.
One last thing maybe someone on here has an idea, is there a spray or something to use on tyres to help stop the rubber cracking?


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 Post subject: Re: cheap tyres
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:42 am 
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brixtonboy wrote:
l believe H is 205 MPH

I don't think so... :ugeek: the highest speed rating on general sale is Y which is "only" 186mph!

See https://www.blackcircles.com/general/speedrating

Tyre Speed Rating Table
Speed Rating Mile/Hour Kilometers/Hour Speed Rating Miles/Hour Kilometers/Hour
N 87 140 U 124 200
P 93 150 H 130 210
Q 99 160 V 149 240
R 106 170 Z 150+ 240+
S 112 180 W 168 270
T 118 190 Y 186 300

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 Post subject: Re: cheap tyres
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:08 pm 
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In the back of my mind l wonder what would have had happened if you had asked the mobile tyre fitter to check out all of your tyres while he was there, repairing your valve. Would he have said, yes mate they all need changing. I’LL give you a quote.


If you check their invoice date you will see that the new tyres were fitted on the 16/05/2017. I didn't have the valve leak problem until 03/05/2018. Its similar to when I took my car in for a service which started out as £ 255 but I was advised I needed new rear shock absorbers.

On that occasion I sourced the new rear shocks on the Internet saving megabucks and the main dealer fitted them. If I'd have thought the tyre thing through properly I would have at least insisted on a well known make of tyre instead of letting them fit whatever they wanted.

I paid premium price for budget tyres. They may be good budget tyres but they are still budget tyres and shouldn't have cost as much as they did.

I can only find one review of the Sailun Atrezzo Eco here... http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Sailun/Atrezzo-Eco.htm

But there are plenty of reviews of the Jinyu YH12 which was the predecessor of my Jinyu YH18's http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Jinyu/YH12.htm

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 Post subject: Re: cheap tyres
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:20 pm 
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Point taken did not realise it was so long ago, but you know best.
I know now were l made the mistake between the speed rating the H is 210 KPH

I still don’t understand why the difference the ratings, maybe you can enlighten me?

I would not risk my life driving on A2 here at 118 MPH in a Smart which is the maximum speed for
a T rated tyre according to your post


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 Post subject: Re: cheap tyres
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:43 am 
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I would not risk my life driving on A2 here at 118 MPH in a Smart which is the maximum speed for
a T rated tyre according to your post


It's not a problem, my Smart has a maximum speed of 90 mph and the maximum speed limit here is 40 mph with most roads being 30 mph.

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 Post subject: Re: cheap tyres
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:01 am 
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I still don’t understand why the difference the ratings, maybe you can enlighten me?

Tyres heat up as they flex while driving, the faster you go the more they heat up. So faster speed rating tyres are designed to conduct the heat away more efficiently to prevent the tread and sidewall compounds getting too hot.

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 Post subject: Re: cheap tyres
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:35 am 
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Yes l can understand that, what l don’t understand is why mix the speed ratings on the same car.


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 Post subject: Re: cheap tyres
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:26 pm 
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Yes l can understand that, what l don’t understand is why mix the speed ratings on the same car.

I'd say why not? Its not as if anyone is ever going to drive at the maximum speed rating anyway is it? Unless on a track day. Its like saying why fit different sized tyres to the front and back. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Just checked the spec of the Continental Eco Contact 3 that came as standard on both my 107 and Smart and they are T rated front and back. Therefore the H rated Jinyu Gallopro YH18 I have fitted to the back are better than standard.

I think I now know why they fitted Sailun Atrezzo Eco 145/65/15 to the front instead of standard 155/60/15. It's because Jinyu don't make a tyre in either 155/60/15 or 145/65/15 sizes whereas its sister brand Sailun do. I think they would have fitted Jinyu to front and back otherwise.

Having said that Sailun do make tyres in 155/60/15 size so they could have fitted those, maybe they didn't have any stock.

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 Post subject: Re: cheap tyres
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:14 pm 
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brixtonboy wrote:
Yes l can understand that, what l don’t understand is why mix the speed ratings on the same car.

So long as the lowest speed rating is higher than the car can/will be driven there's no issue - maybe they didn't have stock of tyres of the same speed rating.

What mustn't be done is mix different tyres (even same make/model but with different speed rating) on the same axle - unless you like trying to control yaw under heavy braking :!:

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