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 Post subject: Tomi's Pug 107 -07
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:44 pm 
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Hi there.

Thought to start new gallery for my Pug. I bought -07 107 in february. We needed cheap 2nd car for family. I used to have many K10/K11 Micras when younger but those start to get rusty and high mileage here in Finland. Needed to find something else and decent mileage 107 was an easy choise.

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During these months I have found myself driving this "frog-Pug" more and more. We have -17 Skoda Rapid as number 1 car but I have given that to wife if possible. 107 starts to feel like my own hobby project.

I did some google search for leaking exhaust and found C1 challenge... I was sold. I have spend some time in my youth at track and this car is giving me nice vibes. In Finland we have small autoslalom (similar to autotest/autosolo) community and this feels like perfect project for me. Cheap and small car with so much potential!

So first "mod" was washing and vacuming. :D Next steps were taking away broken rear wiper and badges. Also bought cheap film to tint rear side windows.

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I felt gear shifter too long so I cut about 40mm from lever and added new knob. I'm not super happy with result and it needs new try.

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Recently I placed an order to City Bug Store, some Eibach and KYB is coming some day soon (I hope). Also some minor mods are in future list when parts arrive. Forgot to order Haynes manual so maybe I need to place new order soon. :)

New wheels and tires will be next decision. I think 195/45r15 Nankang NS-2 will be perfect choise. Choosing wheels is real pain for me. Would love to have light weight 8-12 spoke wheel in black or "gunmetal" finish. Autec Wizard would be super nice but 6,5x15" with ET35 is making me nervous. Will those fit or rub... Maybe InterAction 2 Black Ice or ATS Streetrallye in 6x15" ET38 would be safer choise.

Also need to do something with that broken exhaust soon. Something selfmade I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Tomi's Pug 107 -07
PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:45 am 
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Just ordered MSW 85 in size 6x15" ET35 and Nankang NS-2 195/45R15. Let's hope those fit... :D


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 Post subject: Re: Tomi's Pug 107 -07
PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:41 am 
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TomiKoo wrote:
Just ordered MSW 85 in size 6x15" ET35 and Nankang NS-2 195/45R15. Let's hope those fit... :D


I think the rims will fit but the tires is a bit wide, i have Nankang NA-1 175/50 R15 on 7x15" rims and it could be my imagination but it feels like the car is a little bit slower at highway speeds.
But it could be my imagination, because i haven't noticed any increase to the fuel consumption. Still averages 0.53 - 0.54 liters per 10 kilometers.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomi's Pug 107 -07
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 6:59 am 
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Fredrik M wrote:
I think the rims will fit but the tires is a bit wide, i have Nankang NA-1 175/50 R15 on 7x15" rims and it could be my imagination but it feels like the car is a little bit slower at highway speeds.


175/50R15 has same diameter as 195/45R15 and also original 155R14. So there is no change in speed/RPM. Feeling of course can be different.

On my opinion 175 on 7" rim makes tire stretch and I didn't want that. Charts say 6" rim is ideal for 185 and 195. On track car was used 7" with 205/50 and it was perfect.

My major concern is will those fit without rubbing but I guess it should.


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 Post subject: Re: Tomi's Pug 107 -07
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:14 am 
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TomiKoo wrote:
Fredrik M wrote:
I think the rims will fit but the tires is a bit wide, i have Nankang NA-1 175/50 R15 on 7x15" rims and it could be my imagination but it feels like the car is a little bit slower at highway speeds.


175/50R15 has same diameter as 195/45R15 and also original 155R14. So there is no change in speed/RPM. Feeling of course can be different.

On my opinion 175 on 7" rim makes tire stretch and I didn't want that. Charts say 6" rim is ideal for 185 and 195. On track car was used 7" with 205/50 and it was perfect.

My major concern is will those fit without rubbing but I guess it should.


Yes the circumference is correct, i was thinking of the tire width, 195 is 4 cm wider than the stock 155 tyres and i think i can feel a slight difference in acceleration at highway speeds with 175 tyres only 2 cm wider than stock. It feels that the engine struggles a bit more than it did with stock tires. But i'll guess if it will be a problem it will reveal itself.

I was aiming for the stretched look when choosing 7 inch rims to 175 tyres, i had 195/50 R15 Michelins on 7x15 alloys on my Honda Civic in the mid nineties and with that configuration the tyre wall was very straight, but when we measured the tyre it was almost 205 mm wide, so 195 - 205 tyres on a 7" wide rim will get you a very square set up as you say, probably the best for racing.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomi's Pug 107 -07
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:56 am 
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Fredrik M wrote:
Yes the circumference is correct, i was thinking of the tire width, 195 is 4 cm wider than the stock 155 tyres

I've been running 195/40x16 tyres every Summer for the last 9 years.

I have 10mm spacers on the front (otherwise the inner edge of the tyre would rub on full lock) but no spacers on the rear otherwise the rears rub on the wheel arches (my C1 is a 5 door).

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 Post subject: Re: Tomi's Pug 107 -07
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 2:00 pm 
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Fredrik M wrote:
It feels that the engine struggles a bit more than it did with stock tires. But i'll guess if it will be a problem it will reveal itself.


Oh yea, I understand. Higher rolling recictance and higher rotating mass could affect a lot with these low hp cars. Will be seen. Maybe adding boost-knob or engine swap is next step then... :mrgreen:

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I have 10mm spacers on the front (otherwise the inner edge of the tyre would rub on full lock) but no spacers on the rear otherwise the rears rub on the wheel arches (my C1 is a 5 door).


This was good info. Maybe ET35 is doable then. Will see if I need to cut more room in the rear. I'll have 35mm lowering but this car is used always as 2-seater and I'll try to loose some weight (from car) too. I hope this helps!


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 Post subject: Re: Tomi's Pug 107 -07
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:29 pm 
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Wrote about this to FB already but maybe some project update here too.

Wheels and tires arrived today.
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Wheel is MSW model 85 in size 6x15" ET35. Tire is Nankang NS-2. After ordering seller called and told they had low stock on 195/45r15. We also had a good conversation about my idea of use. As a result we ended changing to 185/45r15.

I think it was a good choise. Now 2nd gear seems useable on autoslalom track here (max 90km/h speeds) and in the city traffic. On the other hand 5th gear is still useable on higher speeds here. I think fit is also good. It doesn't rub anywhere but it is wide enough and looks ok. There is about 1-2cm free space around. I think this should work nicely on autoslalom track.

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I have been thinking a lot for the future of this car. After starting to get to know it better it seems to be a bit worse condition then I would like. Lot's of rusty parts under car and a lot to fix. On the other hand I have been searhing for better condition car but it seems that this was still quite good deal for the price. I would have to double the price to get low mileage 2010 car.

So maybe I'll continue with this and try to fix it on low budget. Expensive mod's need to be able to change to next car. This will be used as daily car but also built for autoslalom. I think I will make some compromise for example keep soundproofing and interior. It would be so easy for me to rip everything off and start building racecar but wife and kids need this also. :mrgreen:

So I just keep my game face off and enjoy new wheels and tires! 8-)

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Next I need to wait for more parts to arrive. Then there will be a lot to do. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Tomi's Pug 107 -07
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Nice! Looks good with the new wheels.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomi's Pug 107 -07
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Fredrik M wrote:
TomiKoo wrote:
Just ordered MSW 85 in size 6x15" ET35 and Nankang NS-2 195/45R15. Let's hope those fit... :D


I think the rims will fit but the tires is a bit wide, i have Nankang NA-1 175/50 R15 on 7x15" rims and it could be my imagination but it feels like the car is a little bit slower at highway speeds.
But it could be my imagination, because i haven't noticed any increase to the fuel consumption. Still averages 0.53 - 0.54 liters per 10 kilometers.


I think the stock size 155/65 14 is the better. It just feels better with this little car. Even just a little increase in width makes me feel like somethings wrong. The steering gets heavier. I putted my summer tires 185/55 14 on two months ago but putted the winter tires in stock size on again. The steering is lighter and it just feels right with the narrow wheels on this little car when driving. But maybe that's just me. And i drive on the highway with my 107 auto everyday. I also think that the little power in this cars benefits from narrow tires. Next set of summer tires gonna be in stock size.


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